Echo Falls Golf Club


20414 121st Ave SE
Snohomish, WA 98296
(206) 362-3000

Review Date: 02/04/2012
Course Reviewer: Ian

In what is one of the most random Seattle weather patters I have ever witnessed, a remarkable 60 degree day in February sparked a golf twitch in every Western Washington golfer from Blaine to Vancouver.  Courses around the Sound were flooded with golfers eager to soak up a round in the sun. As a result the tee sheets at many courses were packed by Tuesday afternoon for Saturday golf.  Usually off-limits in the winter due to extremely soft conditions, my optimism of a dry golf course lead us to Echo Falls.  At pretty darn good greens fee of $33 bucks walking and a relatively open selection of tee times were too good to pass up.

Before getting to some golf, I have to give some credit to the folks at Echo and their pro-activeness on a Saturday frost delay.  Knowing they were looking at a frost delay they called everyone on the tee sheet (90 golfers) the day before, advised them of a frost delay and gave them a new time to show up for a shotgun start.  Impressive.  The start ended up looking like a tournament where no one was getting prizes.  Another prop for Echo Falls and Oki in general was showing up with my Oki players card and being told I have a two-for-one coupon randomly on my card….and by playing today they were adding another one.  Very nice work by the folks at Oki random adding coupons, discounts and specials to players card holders.

As for the golf at Echo Falls, not too shabby really.  We’ve reviewed Echo Falls multiple times and it’s usually the same old story: A mud pit and an uninspiring design minus two very exceptional holes at the end.  By the way, I pity the foursome in the shotgun that had to start on 18.  How much would it suck to start a shotgun stone cold with a shot to an island green?  Anyways, Echo Falls after a couple of days of clear skies was much more playable than any other time in the winter.  That said, there were quite a few soft spots, plugged lies and of course zero roll out on drives.  Par for the course really for Seattle golf in the winter.  I think I took relief 2 or 3 times during the round for casual water.

I was very surprised how excellent the greens looked.  Extremely health, very good color to them.  They rolled like you were putting on top of a jig saw puzzle but they sure did look good.  The soft conditions made foot prints on the greens a significant challenge.  Putts were jumping and sliding all over the place and rolling at a snail’s pace.  However, just by the look I’m optimistic the greens this summer with be very good.

Golfchops.com rating: 18/25
Customer Service: 5
Condition of Greens: 3
“Perceived” maintenance level of course: 3
Value: 4
Amenities: 3

– Calling us a day ahead of time about the delay and having a random 2 for 1 coupon is a 5 in my book.
– Healthy and set up for a great summer, but very bumpy and near impossible from 8 feet plus.
– Course looked like it was in good shape, minus the usual winter muck.
– $33 walking is a steal if you can handle the hill to 12.
– Kudos for having a cart girl in the winter.  Restricted flight range balls are a bummer but necessary.  Very small putting green.

18th hole at Echo Falls

Review Date 04/09/2011
Course Reviewer: Ian

Our rating of Echo Falls has gone up each time we have played it and I even made a point of adding a note to the bottom of Jason’s review from a couple weeks ago.  Then I went and played Echo this morning and I’m looking for the delete key.  Honestly I want to put a positive spin on this but the mud it so overwhelming out there right now it was a significant challenge to enjoy myself.  On the 15th hole I had to use my 7 iron as a shovel to recover my second shot that was dead smack in the middle of the fairway.  Usually, when you get a plugged lie you can see the top half or quarter of the ball peaking out.  In this case were talking about a full inch below ground before you even see that ball.  Frankly, how I found it was a complete miracle in the first place.

There are a couple fun holes out there and as many will state, 17 and 18 are exceptional.  But honestly, who wants to pay $41 to play in heavy heavy mud.  That $41 is a walking rate by the way.  Keep in mind if are going to walk there is an epic hill on the back nine.  Epic.  Maybe in August Echo Falls will be playing well because it has the ability to be an above average tough track, but right now its a swamp.

Golfchops.com rating: 10/25
Customer Service:
 3
Condition of Greens: 2
“Perceived” maintenance level of course: 2
Value: 1
Amenities: 2

 TNothing out of the ordinary to report.  They were friendly at check in and that was about our only encounter.
– Greens seemed healthy, but pretty bumpy and very slow.  Putts were jumping arond.
– Lots of maintenance workers out on the course, but it was an absolute mud pit.  Casual water isn’t even a reasonable statement.
– $41 to walk and that hill on the back 9 makes it almost unwalkable for some.  Mid thirty’s would be appropriate.
– Tiny putting green, range is out of the way, and they use restricted flight golf balls.  Also there is no “turn” after nine.  Snack ball by a couple of the par 3’s.

Review Date 03/20/2011
Course Reviewer: Jason


The first day of spring in the Northwest and the sun was out but so was the cold. Cold enough to cause a 45 min frost delay. When the delay was over we where sent to the 17th tee to start our round. If you have ever played Echo Falls before then you know that 17 and 18 are the two best and most difficult holes on the course.  The 17th was playing very long due to the cold weather, soft fairway, and 15 MPH wind blowing in our faces.  With OB left and water right you must be accurate off the tee.  If you are able to find dry land with your first shot then you’ll be facing a long second shot over water into a large multi tiered green. The 18th hole is a 150-175 yard par 3 over water into the wind to an island green.  The pace of play was surprisingly quick for this course.  Echo Falls is usually a 5 hour situation but we got around in a little over 4 and a half. The course was muddy as expected but the greens and tee boxes where in good shape. Not a bad value at $32 with my Oki card but I don’t think I’ll be shelling out $45+ next month when the rates go up…

Golfchops.com rating: 14/25
Customer Service: 4
Condition of Greens: 3
“Perceived” maintenance level of course: 3
Value: 2
Amenities: 2

Rating Notes:
 The course did call me an hour and a half before my tee time to inform me of the delay. The guys in the clubhouse are always friendly and helpful.
– Greens were healthy but very soft and footprints would send putts off line.
– Maintenance was ok.  Nothing really stood out and said “this is great” or “this is awful.”
– $37 for prime time w/out an Oki Card and $32 with.
– Restricted flight balls on the out of the way range (a long way from the first tee).  Very small putting green and practice area.

*Editors Note (Ian) – Every time we score Echo Falls the score gets better, and I’ve been thinking we’ve been a bit harsh on what is a much better track than the scores have reflected.  It’s pretty tough in the mud but I’m looking forward to playing it this summer.

Review Date 09/25/2010

Wow what a beautiful day it was for late September Saturday and it literally dragged us from the house to the links today.  With one last free round left on the Oki Card we decided to give Echo Falls one more run before the winter strikes.  Echo Falls Golf Course is an absolute mud fest in the winter so this will surely be our last visit until the sunny weather for 2011 shows up.  This was a solo mission with no other members of the golfchops.com staff and no tee time waiting.  Echo Falls had a full tee sheet when I showed up but had a 3-some going out about 20 minutes after I checked in, so I was advised to just join up with them at the starters station.  I was a litter nervous about the pace of play when I got to the starters station as there were groups stacked up to tee off, a group in the fairway waiting to hit approach shots, and a group putting out on the first hole.

The pace did prove to be a challenge, especially on the front where we were stacked up on tee boxes very often and didn’t make the turn until about 2 hours and 45 minutes into the round.  Always hard to get into a rhythm and have any kind of touch or feel for a shot when you have 10 minutes to wait and think about it.  Echo Falls was pretty murky in quite a few places and it was a bit odd to be in 75 degree conditions but walk through mud on various places on the course.  The greens were also very spongy and soft.  They looked pretty healthy but the ball moved in alot of different directions when you attempted to roll putts in.  Foot prints were the major culprit out there.  Because the greens we so stinking soft, footprints left significant depressions in the greens that altered a lot of putts for my foursome.  Another thing to keep in mind at Echo Falls is the rough.  The rough plays very think and will grab a club face when you are coming through the ball.  Also, with the murkiness, you never know when one of those chops is going to be a mud ball.

Overall it was a fun day at Echo Falls even though the pace and mud were a bit frustrating.  Oh, and I still think that 85 yard par 3 is a joke.  Is there anything more frustrating than not being able to par an 85 yard par 3?  Um, yes, 3 putting for double on it!  The weather is toast and Echo Falls is punching their greens on Monday so we’re done with our visits for the season.

Golfchops.com rating: 12.5/25
Customer Service: 3
Condition of Greens: 2.5
“Perceived” maintenance level of course: 3
Value: 2
Amenities: 2

Rating Notes:
 They had some issues with my final free Oki round and they had me sweating for a while that they were not going to grant it.
– Greens were healthy but very spongy and footprints ruined any chance of a ball rolling well.
– Maintenance was ok.  Nothing really stood out and said “this is great” or “this is awful.”
– $56 bucks for prime time w/out an Oki Card is too much.  This is a $40 golf course with two very nice golf holes.
– As mentioned before the restricted flight range balls are a trip!  Very small putting green and practice area

Review Date 06/27/2010

It had been a few months since we had been to Echo Falls and we were pretty hard on them last time so might as well give them another shot. Also, that Oki Platinum card gets us 6 free rounds which is actually quite the bargain. We headed out early to get some range and putting time in just to make sure we were all dialed in for the festivities. At check-in my playing partner is greeted with a $56 green fee followed by an additional $16 if he wanted to ride in a cart. Oh, and those range balls, tack on an extra $6. It’s time to coin a new phrase, the Oki Wallet Dagger. No matter what Oki course you play, your poor wallet is getting the business. $80 down and away to the driving range we go.

It had been a few months since we had been to Echo Falls and we were pretty hard on them last time so might as well give them another shot. Also, that Oki Platinum card gets us 6 free rounds which is actually quite the bargain. We headed out early to get some range and putting time in just to make sure we were all dialed in for the festivities. At check-in my playing partner is greeted with a $56 green fee followed by an additional $16 if he wanted to ride in a cart. Oh, and those range balls, tack on an extra $6. It’s time to coin a new phrase, the Oki Wallet Dagger. No matter what Oki course you play, your poor wallet is getting the business. $80 down and away to the driving range we go.

The driving range is across the street and away from everything else at the course. We meander over, grab our small bucket and take our positions. Then the oddity occurs. What in the hell kind of range ball is this? It feels like hard rubber. Whack! “Ummm…I smoked that 7-iron and it only went 140.” Holy crap! Restricted flight range balls! Unreal! I’ve never seen them used before on a driving range like this. Nothing builds your confidence for a round like drilling your 3 iron a whopping 175 yards. Ughh…let’s just go play golf…”oh, steal one of those balls, we need it for evidence.”

After the first few holes it was obvious the greens were in much better shape than they were two months ago. Granted that’s a given for most courses (even Snohomish we assume) but it was nice to see some putts roll pretty true and find their home. The rough was aggressive in spots and we appreciate the challenge. Not the tall fescue but the thick nasty cabbage that grabs the club face and generates the occasional shank. The course was in fair shape and the place of play was very good. As mentioned in our previous review, Echo doesn’t really leave you in awe at all. 17 and 18 are great challenging holes, but the other 16 are kind of ho-hum. At $56 it leaves you wanting a bit more. Oh, and the sloped tee boxes, come on. It’s hard enough for most golfers to hit a drive down the middle, but even harder when the stinking tee box slopes.

There are a couple holes that just make no sense to us. Two of the par three’s are right next to each other and share a dangerous bunker. By dangerous we mean if you are in that bunker someone from the other tee-box will hit missiles your way. We had three hit into us today all of them in very very close range. Then there is the 90 yard par 3. It’s basically a pitch and putt from Green Lake with two bunkers. On the positive side, the downhill par 5’s are fun and give you legit eagle opportunities. The par 3’s are all fun for the most part and use water to scare you very well. Then there is 18 of course, the signature hole of the golf course. Nothing makes you happier than hitting one fat and plunking it in the water to finish off your day, not that this happened to us 😉

Golfchops.com rating: 12/25
Customer Service: 4
Condition of Greens: 3
“Perceived” maintenance level of course: 2
Value: 2
Amenities: 1

Rating Notes:
 Proshop staff and starter were very friendly and helpful.
– Greens were healthy but nothing to write home about.
– Maintenance still seemed a bit below par. Tee boxes were pretty beat up. A couple spots on the course that still haven’t recovered from winter.
– We still view this course as over priced. You’re playing for the name Oki and the 18th hole.
– Restricted flight range balls? Very small putting green. No cart/beverage service.


Review Date: 4/24/2010

Maybe its just me, but none of the Oki Courses appear to be in good shape right now. Hawks Prairie, ouch…Redmond Ridge, ugh. Doesn’t this “elite” management company have a ton of $$to put in on the maintenance of these courses? For the money, go play The Home Course in DuPont, greens have been excellent even in December. As for Echo Falls, does having 2 nice finishing holes make up for 16 holes of blah? 17 and 18 are a blast, but other holes such as the pitch and putt, 85 yard par three are annoying.

Golfchops.com rating: 10/25
Customer Service: 3
Condition of Greens: 2
“Perceived” maintenance level of course: 2
Value: 1
Amenities: 2

Rating Notes:
 Nothing to report on customer service, impartial.
– Greens are wounded but recovering.
– I got the impression all winter and now into spring that Oki, (the management company) is pinching pennies.
– Overpriced for a course that really only has two holes that put a smile on your face.
– Driving range is way out of the way across the street and small, plus there is no walking path to get to it so you walk through vehicle traffic on the driveway, Putting green is average and a bit away from the first tee as well.

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